he's had to deal -- he's got the afghanistan problem, libya problem, a whole range of other issues. if they want me to do something, i talk. >> you wait for a phone call. >> absolutely. i don't think i should. he knows i support in general what he's trying to do. i'm out here trying to explain it to people, but he's got a good team. you know, i talk to gene sperling from time to time. >> he worked for you? >> he did. he's a good man. i talked to joe biden last week about some of these economic issues, but i think it's important, you know, not to get the politics confused with action. because i believe if people understand the choices, then the only way he will lose is if a republican who is nominated who has a more credible plan that has a more rapid, broadly based republican. >> whos the strongest candidate out there? >> i'm not sure yet. >> who do you think will win? >> i'm not surprised if the president will win. a democrat who i've always thought myself is pro growth, pro business, pro labor democrat. i like governor huntsman, i like governor romney. i think governor romney is d